Christina Cacioppo Unfiltered on Fake Compliance, AI Security & Building a $4B Company
NewcomerJune 16, 202600:46:43

Christina Cacioppo Unfiltered on Fake Compliance, AI Security & Building a $4B Company

The CEO of a $4 billion compliance company on how her biggest competitor was faking it, and what that means for AI startup culture.

Christina Cacioppo, co-founder and CEO of Vanta, joins Eric Newcomer to talk about the scandal that shook the compliance world. Her $4 billion competitor Delve was caught pre-filling compliance reports without doing the actual security work — and customers had no idea. Christina explains how Vanta figured it out, why fake compliance is a better product experience than real compliance, and what happened to Delve's customers after the story broke.

The conversation also covers the AI hype cycle and whether it is crypto 2.0, why AI is both the biggest threat and biggest tailwind for security companies, the broken VC equity social contract, and what it really takes to build a $4 billion company without losing sight of the fundamentals.
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Chapters:
00:00 The $4B Compliance Scandal
00:59 Is AI the New Crypto?
03:09 From Dropbox PM to Vanta Founder
07:29 What Made Vanta's Early Pitch Work
08:08 How Delve Got Caught Faking Compliance
18:01 Why AI Is a Tailwind for Security
24:39 AI Agents and Security Guardrails
27:29 The Broken VC Social Contract
32:31 Can You Build an AI Company Without Fundraising?
36:58 How Vanta Recruits for an AI-First World
38:30 What Benchmark Going Growth Really Means
44:07 Lessons From Building Vanta

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