Shardul Shah, Partner at Index Ventures, was one of the first checks into Wiz — the Israeli cybersecurity company Google acquired for $32 billion. It wasn't luck. It was a decade-long relationship with the founders, a willingness to wire money on conviction alone, and a philosophy that treats risk calculus as a fool's errand.
In this conversation, Eric sits down with Shardul to unpack how the Wiz deal actually came together, what Google really bought for $32 billion, and why mid-sized acquisitions almost always fail. They get into how Index thinks about doubling down across funds, why Shardul refuses to invest in a founder he's only met over Zoom, and what he saw in the Wiz founders a decade before anyone else was paying attention.
They also talk about what's next — the categories Shardul is hunting, the founders he's already betting on, and why he thinks everything that happened with Wiz should stretch every entrepreneur's sense of what's possible.
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Chapters:
00:00 Acquisition Size Matters
00:30 Meet the Wiz Backer
01:24 Deal Closes and Index’s Position
02:05 Why Google Bought Wiz
03:28 Three Tailwinds in Security
04:30 First Meeting Chemistry
07:14 Betting on Founders
09:13 Index Doubles Down
14:17 Asymmetric Signals and Hiring
17:56 Why He Won’t Invest Over Zoom
21:46 Exit Decisions Framework
28:00 Founder Stamina and Ambition
34:28 Staying Motivated Post Exit
35:28 Getting on a VC Radar
37:13 People Over Categories
42:19 Why Index Doesn’t Want to Scale Forever
45:06 SPVs, Concentration, and Fund Strategy
51:14 Hot Deals and Wiz Lessons
